The guy that has created & provided Windows Weekly with a home since its inception is the very reason its becoming an eye-rolling, amateur-hour shitshow.
Leo Laporte, the founder & Chief TWiT of the TWiT podcast network, is also the host of the Windows Weekly podcast… and outside of maybe wanting to put his face/voice into what I believe is the network’s 2nd most popular show, you really have to wonder why.
ZERO PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE OR INTEREST WITH MICROSOFT
It’s become abundantly obvious that Leo Laporte has no day-to-day in-depth experience with current Microsoft technologies, despite having a radio show in which he provides consumers with technical advice – usually on Microsoft technologies. It’s almost as if he’s been sustaining his diminishing knowledge of Windows, Xbox, and any matters near Redmond through the 2 hour education he gets from Paul Thurrott & Mary Jo Foley… and probably his own IT guy.
But the problem is he’s not even bothering to feign interest these days: Phoning it in, he regularly appears to mentally tune out & shows total indifference to the majority of the Microsoft discussion during the podcast unless it’s related to his Xbox One, a laptop he bought online the other day, or something that might give him the opportunity to blame/indict Microsoft for something he believes validates the sentiment that Microsoft is just some crap company.
Listen for his trademarked phrases: “Very interesting…” “We shall see…” “Good, good, good…” “Uhhhh… okay.” etc. etc. Loosely translated, this means, “I wasn’t paying attention because I’m not even the least bit interested. Moving on.”
Okay, so the guy wastes airtime on the podcast, right? But as long as he doesn’t get in Paul or Mary Jo’s way and let’s them, y’know, TALK… it’s all good, right?
LEO’S PASSIONS: APPLE & GOOGLE
Nope. It turns out that in the past several months, a mindbendingly disrespectful pattern has emerged, where Leo has focused the podcast on discussing non-Microsoft topics he’s interested in AND JUST STAYS ON THEM for long segments of podcast time: iOS & iOS applications. Android & Android applications. Macintosh & Mac applications. Linux & Linux distros. Google announcements. Google acquisitions. Apple announcements. Apple products.
One of the things that has made Windows Weekly interesting has been the “Pardon The Interruption” type discussion where Paul & Mary Jo iterate through a list of topics and weigh in with their opinions at a reasonable clip. But that all goes to holy hell when Leo decides he wants to participate in some non-Microsoft related matter. Take the last podcast: The moment the topic of non-Microsoft phones came up, he practically dominated the conversation and you couldn’t get Leo to quiet down.
It’s gotten to the point where as much as 2/3rds of the podcast’s time is taken up by Leo’s rants about anything other than Microsoft-related discussion & Paul/Mary Jo’s forced responses to this stuff or, if we’re lucky, God willing, Paul/Mary Jo’s actual corrections of Leo’s misperceptions.
DIRECTOR OF THE RANT/TANGENT
The next time you hear the Windows Weekly podcast “go sideways”, off on some barreling tangent about Samsung’s latest Android phone or an Apple Macintosh update/event/release, listen to who’s very loudly doing the direction of the discussion.
I’m sure Paul & Mary Jo have realized this pattern to a great extent but what do you do when someone who is in many respects YOUR EMPLOYER wants to go off on some unnecessary rant about Microsoft or dig deeper about a topic that has nothing to do with why people presumably listen to the podcast. I’ve noticed Paul just “give up” trying to respond to Leo’s ranting at certain points, for what I assume, is an attempt to just “move on”.
Every time, you’ll find it’s Leo.
BTW: STOP BLAMING PAUL
Some may want to blame Paul Thurrott. Paul’s not perfect and he sure as heck can’t seem to let go of some really silly points, for example:
- Office 365 Home is a 1-year subscription & the whole world is going that way. It’s not in anyway “dishonest” as Paul likes to call it. If you don’t like it, you don’t have to buy Office 365 & can still buy Office 2016 as a productivity suite. but frankly you’re an idiot if you do given the benefit of Office 365 Home.
- HoloLens’ visible frame is perfectly useful for the designs that it’s being applied to in either a professional or a gaming capacity. No one I’ve worked with has considered it “unacceptable” or “dishonest” as the very jaded Paul likes to call it.
- Kinect works & millions enjoy using it. It doesn’t lack responsiveness nor is it a “failure”. Just because Paul Thurrott likes to call it useless because he can’t personally find any scenario for it outside of its omnidirectional microphone, doesn’t mean that it hasn’t been an amazing peripheral for gaming – children’s gaming in particular. (Ask any parent that’s loaded up Kinect Party for their kids)It’s certainly not the success that Microsoft would like it to be but it’s technology far from useless.
THAT BEING SAID…
Paul’s really not the reason the podcast goes off the tracks down into non-Microsoft ditch. He might say something annoyingly narcissistic, focusing on his personal interests, instead of a broader perspective, but it’s rarely something that wastes a whopping 20 minutes of the podcast on a non-Microsoft topic.
Listen to Paul during these moments: He’s usually the poor schmuck on his heels along with Mary Jo, trying to rail in Leo who is going down some non-Windows/Microsoft rathole that only Leo’s got an interest in. During these moments, you can almost hear Windows Weekly nation simultaneously screaming in one voice, “OMG, someone take Leo down! Paul! Mary Jo! DO SOMETHING! Tranquilize him! I’ve already hit the damned fast forward button on my podcast player, like, 12 times already. Force him into a commercial or something, for crissakes.”
SOLUTION: BRING IN PADRE
It’s simple. Get Father Robert Ballecer of “This Week in Enterprise Tech” to host the podcast.
He’s professional, he’s hosted the podcast before, and he’s got SERIOUS technical chops. He’s likeable & he doesn’t have an uncontrollable, insanely annoying unconscious bias against Microsoft or Windows. That’s the end of these ratholes & sideshows… and it keeps the podcast on the TWiT network just like Leo wants it.
Help us, Father Ballecer. You’re our only hope.
UPDATE (3/19/16): PADRE’S TIME ISN’T FREE
I think I should clarify something that I realized I didn’t mention: I’m not blind to the requirements of what I’m asking for. I’m fully aware that introducing Father Robert Ballecer into the podcast as the host would result in additional financial overhead for Leo & the TWiT Network. People’s services – like those of the talented & knowledgeable Padre – don’t come free.
But while I’m sure the TWiT Network’s margins are thin… probably very thin… I would hope that the attractiveness to a growing audience of adding an expert host to the WW cast while freeing up Leo to develop or grow other podcasts on the network that he IS passionate about, would make the expenditure worthwhile – or at least worthy of a pilot, because Leo’s passion is clearly not with Microsoft which is the core of Windows Weekly.
Can’t someone at least run the numbers on something like this? Project what the change would do to the revenue brought in from the show?
I AM NOT A LEO HATER
Believe it or not: I ask for this financial impact question because I suspect Leo MIGHT ACTUALLY DO IT and run the numbers. Let’s be clear: Despite my distaste for Leo’s offtopic ratholes during Windows Weekly, I’m not a “Leo Hater” like some of the folks I’ve read on the Internet.
To the contrary, I truly have great respect for his pioneering business development of a well-established podcast network. While I may have reservations about other matters he’s associated with, his establishment of what appears to be (I don’t know his financials so I can’t be sure) a successful and profitable podcast network earns and deserves one’s respect. After all, who else can say they’ve done that from the ground up?
Bluntly, I just wish he’d move on from Windows Weekly.
While Leo is the biggest problem with WW, I think the entire cast seems to forget that WW listener base are *already* invested in Windows. We’re already on the bus, which means we’re not listening to hear pissing and griping about “forced updates” or prognostications about ChromeOS taking over the world. If we wanted to hear that *t we’d be listening Linux and ChromeOS podcasts.
I’ll just post the entirety of an email I sent to TWiT pretty much requesting Leo’s hasty exist for the same of the show (as well as some other comments):
Windows Weekly is supposed to be informative, but instead it’s turned in a bashfest full of snark, sarcasm, and doom that offers no information listeners can’t also get from The Sams Report, WinBeta, or The Observed Tech podcasts. All of those are actually factual and enlightening.
Leo is a cancer to the podcast. He doesn’t use Windows as his primary OS and isn’t sufficiently knowledgeable about the status quo to offer any constructive input. His constant snide remarks about Windows and Microsoft in general detract from the show. He literally adds absolutely nothing to it and should excuse himself or replace himself with someone who actually knows what they’re talking about and isn’t there just to troll.
I have no idea how Paul Thurrott functions in daily life without a bottle of antidepressants. He’s so pessimistic and cynical about everything – including the ecosystem he’s supposedly an expert in – that pretty much anything he says can be summed up in “Windows and Microsoft are dead.” With that attitude, his presence on the podcast is pointless. Just write in a line saying “This will never work” and don’t show up.
Mary Jo is a Luddite masquerading as a tech insider. The fact that she still runs Windows 7 because “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” shows she doesn’t truly believe in Windows 10 and is stuck in the past.
Seriously at this point WW is more of a parody than actual tech show. And that’s sad.
Change the format, the lineup, or the attitudes or just quit.
The tone of the show is so self-contradictory. There’s no way Microsoft can win if you listen to these 3. Windows 10 adoption is “falling short,” but anytime MS does anything to increase said adoption they’re “forcing it on users.”
Leo – who really is the worst part of the show by any measure – said PCs are dying, except Windows 10 went from 0 to 21% among ALL DEVELOPERS according to Stack Overflow’s own userbase, smartphone and tablet sales have plateaued, and Chromebooks have been a success in the US only (and even then almost entirely in the education market).
I’m sick of of this garbage week in, week out. Unsubscribing until you guys make a REAL podcast for people who actually use Microsoft products and want to see the ecosystem succeed. For examples on how to do that, see WinBeta, Android Central, Android Authority, etc. for podcasts that truly believe in the platforms and ecosystems they’re about.
Paul and Mary Jo have a real interest in Windows and Microsoft. Leo Laporte clearly does not, and demonstrates this on every episode. Laporte was a Mac guy way back with TechTV days. This isn’t anything new. I think the podcast is way too long for what information is absorbed from it. I stopped listening to it long time ago, and still like thoughts from Paul and Mary Jo. Leo, I could care less what Leo thinks these days.
So, I agree with most of what your saying – especially how the podcast is way too freakin’ long. Christ almighty, the thing is 2 hours for what is mostly just a snarky verbalization of basically “Reddit”.
I will say that I wrote this post 6 years ago and I have a slightly different opinion these days in which I do tip my hat a little bit more to Leo in the sense that he was a podcast pioneer who first and foremost built a successful business monetizing a new medium – even if it means riling up his listeners. He’s still a troll but at least I get why he’s a troll.
I followed Paul from back in the 90s and was really down on him throughout the 2010s for many reasons which I won’t go over here but I’ve come to the conclusion that the dude’s simply burned out on what he does & been phoning it in for years. He couldn’t care less about half the major topics in the Microsoft ecosystem – particularly the most important: The cloud – and it shows in his arbitrary, poorly thought out responses. This apathy is the primary reason I find the show useless.
Mary Jo on the other hand has evolved her reporting & journalism from being a rumor-mongering muckraker to a more professional Enterprise tone which I personally like & find more rational. She got burned hard back in the 2000’s (which is another story) when she ran microsoft-watch.com and I think that tempered her approach a little. And it’s got her delving into more than just consumer stuff.
Anyway, thanks for the memories. If you ever wanna laugh, turn the podcast on again and count how many poorly formed opinions you hear in the first 15min. I do that every so often just for yuks. 😁